Writer: Magi Mania
Subject: Gratification (Response)
Link: Tumblr / 18.12.2025 / Response to “Gratification” by Aanti-Christ
Gratification (Response)
I understand the author’s bottom portion vs the pledge above.
I’d appreciate a Theistic Satanist’s perspective rationalizing the sense of going against the Holy Spirit. I’m being genuine and humbly curious. Should we not explore using the power of our souls to find ways to self-preserve our existence? If there is a power higher than Yahweh, and Lucifer too recognized this ‘source’ beyond creation, is it not a sensible rebellion we take as well: to choose life in the physical vs death & eternal torment?
Two immortal proxies come to mind involving high shamanistic magic: One method is a form of controlled/routed reincarnation – example: The Dalai Lama. As many already know, this practice involves hijacking an already occupied human vessel through consecrated objects and ritual tools.
The second proxy involves preparing a phantom to act like a bunshin – example: an occultist will consecrates ones spirit to said phantom to move around remotely through the astral during life enough times, so that in death, that’s where his or her spirit goes to reside. The practitioner becomes vampiric through this vessel for survival because they have no means to reconnect with the Soul to reincarnate or reintegrate with the creator source — El Elyon / Elohim (Not Yahweh – to clarify my point of view).
Thank you XP.
Self preservation should be the goal. To accept that eternal damnation is inevitable is not a declaration of spiritual sovereignty. Now I did mention in an older commentary something about Imu-Kebal: a process which involves attaching a specific amount of entities to each aura layer and chakras. The ritual is suppose to grant a type of “immortality” in a sense. But even still, the body can’t sustain its form to last beyond normal lifespan without aging. An old occult teacher once told me the body can only withstand so many attachments. I wanted to add an even more powerful spirit-bond item to my arsenal, yet he refused to do the consecration because it would have resulted in an early death.
While it’s one thing to revile in fleshly pleasures of this life, to die without some way back is rather disarming. There are some dark entities that will make promiss of reviving you, keeping you in power within the life you wish to lead. But often times the price to keep paying is unrealistic for the practitioner to uphold – Mainly because the etities know their side of the bargain can’t go beyond what they can take from other people and places to make your life greater. It’s a constant balance struggle I’ve yet to see worth pursueing because either the entities making such claims are not telling the truth, OR the entities that do infact possess such an ability to make man live longer years are in pact with the elites of this world – something we can’t even fathom a possible audience with in the first place. Thus the other avenues I mentioned above seem to be viable proxies – However make no mistake that I do believe Jesus was revived by Elohim, proving who he claimed to be.
The bigger question is: If Hell is suppose to be eternal damnation and death, what is sustaining the “life force” of those spirits to remain counciously aware once separated from God? If the spirit is energy compounded to an atomic monad, which can neither be created nor destroyed, that is one answer. Unless you interpret the Lake of Fire as the ‘second death’ apart from what Hell is, then perhaps that is the destruction of counsciousness. I’m proposing this challenge because we should not accept this fate when we didn’t choose to exist in the first place. Free Will should not equate with Death, and then later Deletion.
Just in-case anybody is still preparing a response, I’ll summarize my theological hierarchy beliefs.
Elohim – The Most High God and Provider of the Soul (divine creation light that sustains life)
Yahweh & Satan – The Demiurge of this World (opperating under the same Divine Council)
Lucifer – The 1st Morning Star that broke from the Divine Council (1/3 per Revelations)
Jesus – The 2nd Morning Star and direct interloper from Elohim
The flesh is the conduit that allows for a physical vessel to hone light from the Soul and thus sustain life in the physical. Therefore it seems the only way to gain a new body is to pass through the Soul and back out again. My belief is that a Spirit can continue to exist without a Soul for a time being, but not forever – hence eventual descension to the lowest level of Hell being the Lake of Fire (aka the second true death).
Further research based upon my own personal ritual experiences have lead me to believe that Satan and his legions, as well as Lucifer and his legions, can only maintain sustainability by willing human hosts. Therefore the people that are in power of this World are split between three forces at war: Yahweh/Satan ; Lucifer ; Jesus.
I don’t claim this to be absolute truth of course, but I hope this helps clarify my point of view for future discussion.
~Hail The Morning Star~
For me, Yahweh/Jesus gives life through the spirit. To reject God is to reject life. This is only my musings and I have not done Shaman research. I don’t believe in the demiurge.
Canonically speaking, belief in Jesus allows one to receive the Holy Spirit; thus enables a human spirit to be guided back to Elohim for regeneration (hence receiving a new body). Satanist generally reject Jesus and the Holy Spirit because they equate the Father with being Yahweh – however I don’t believe this to be so due to Gnostic texts and certain scriptures in the Bible.
To further clarify my perspective: Yahweh is explicity in charge of ruling over the physical plane of Earth. He controls a portion of Angels, Djinn, and Demons (Called Archons) to regulate the lower spiritual affairs of mortals. Lucifer also controls a portion of the Djinn and Demons ranging from the Goetic orders to the obscure renegade classes. Then there is Jesus and the Holy Spirit whom are part of the Elohim trinity; and certain Angels and Djinn serve alongside their council as well. Satan is technically a ‘title’ for ‘ruler’ (hence using the term ‘Demiurge’ more loosly by comparison). So Yahweh is technically relatable, just as much as the ‘Morning Stars’ claim to sovereignty apart from different divinities.
Shamanism has helped me chart some of the complexities of the spiritual realm. While I only outlined three major forces at conflict, I do sense there are indeed more “free willed” factions with wavering allegiences to these powers in particular. Being able to identify what forces are being drawn to us is vital for continueing to exist beyond this life.
I guess my hope with presenting my challenge was to have a Satanist practitioner explain to me where there empowerment is withstanding by blasting Jesus and or the Holy Spirit. Because that automatically puts you in Yahweh’s court without a path to rejustification of your right to exist.