The Real Problem With The Conception Of Jesus (Response) by XP, Pervone, & Magi Mania

Writer: XP, Pervone, & Magi Mania

Subject: The Real Problem With The Conception Of Jesus (Response)

Link: LS666 Comments / 13.12.2025 / Response to “The Real Problem With The Conception Of Jesus” by Lovecraftsdeath

The Real Problem With The Conception Of Jesus (Response)

FROM PERVONE (VIA LS666 COMMENTS & BLOG)

You have to play the hand you were dealt, and if religious scholars say Mary was fourteen when she conceived, deal with it!! Just because the “Church Fathers” say a female should wait till eighteen to have kids and say it’s because a fourteen-year-old’s body (and mind) hasn’t developed enough, the Bible says it happened. I’m not a Bible thumper, but it does say Mary was a virgin and she conceived a baby everyone recognized as God’s son.

The “Church fathers” can say it goes against moral or physical laws … but the “Book” says it happened! You say … ”It doesn’t matter about the customs of the time. Not by that point. Not when it comes to the moral law,” … Whose moral law are you questioning? Gods?

He didn’t fuck her; my guess is she was artificially inseminated, and therefore science (and a farmer) played a big part in her pregnancies. Farmers inseminated animals routinely back then. I’m a realist and say if God can talk through a burning bush, then he is more than capable of producing his seed for insemination. Otherwise, you have to question the entire thing, and that starts with what is written in the Bible and the concept of a God … So, you may not be in error, but isn’t that your point?

FROM XP (VIA LS666 COMMENTS & BLOG)

The thing about fiction, as a writer, you can do whatever you want. The Bible is fiction. So, the writers can make up all kinds of things. Burning bushes, parting of the seas, resurrections, and virgin births … sure, they may be rooted in some form of reality (like artificial insemination), but that’s not what was written. I do not doubt that two thousand years ago, a fourteen-year-old could be sexually active, but the virgin birth makes for a better story. And that’s all it is — a story.

Now, some like this story. Christians think it’s a cool story. And they tell it over and over. The manger, the three wise men, the Star, the shepherds, etc., but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a story. I guess our learned friend, Lovecraftsdeath, isn’t one to take their story to heart. In fact, he sees it as a story with holes in the plot and characters who are not believable — and he’s just pointing out the facts as he sees them. At the end of the day. You believe what you want to believe.

FROM MAGI MANIA (VIA LS666 COMMENTS & BLOG)

I’ve never understood the religious hangups concerning this issue, in particular when in Genesis it clearly talks about the ‘sons of god’ taking mortal women for wives, and thus giving birth to the infamous Nephilim. I don’t think age was a problem concerning their intentions. If the entities had that capacity, why not God? I think most Theistic Satanists familiar with Gnostic texts would agree that cambions (hybrids) exist in the world today.

And I suppose it’s one thing to infer such a cosmological deduction based upon scripture, yet another thing entirely when one knows this truth to be literally so. The real question is what factions of angels were those ‘sons of god’ in contrast to Jesus’s case? Whether you’re an occult practitioner of the Right or Left Hand Path, you eventually attract attention from the unseen once you start to decode God, Satan, Lucifer, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. They will determine your level of power, magical/entity affairs, and overall intentions within the Infernal War.

I’ve recently come across a YouTuber ‘MorgueOfficial’ whom articulates the most practical case I’ve ever seen regarding Yahweh and Satan being one side of the same coin – Accurately pointing out Jesus isn’t the son of this god, but a higher God – El Elyon (El Elohim) – the bestower of the Holy Spirit that animates life (Breath of Elohim).

Of course, don’t take his word for it; the demons Jesus exorcises exclaim he is the ‘Son of the Most High God’ in scripture … Now, please hear me out: I don’t mean to aggravate followers of the dark path here, quoting the Bible and such, but I did once walk the Right Hand Path and found it to be false.

After realising both Light and Dark Angels serve in the Council of Yahweh, my perspective of ‘Satan’ changed regarding his role, status, and title as the ‘god of this world’. I learned that Satan can comprise of many different entities that attribute themselves to the Hive Mind, which serve to feed upon mankinds ego and karma built up. Seeming Yahweh/Satan as the ‘Demiurge’ responsible for keeping man in a constant reincarnation due to this continual karmic-feeding by his hosts, Jesus role played out more like a divine interloper trying to show mankind how to break away from the cycle and return to the true source of creation.

Lucifer, on the other hand, is an aspect of Satan (The Hive Mind of Dark Entities) that broke away from the Council — per Revelations twelve, stating the Great Dragon took one third of the heavenly hosts with him. I’ve since seen his mission for mankind to sustain, preserving the self and ego, actualize our divinity within, and use that power to resist Yahweh’s reincarnation imprisonment cycle.

As one can surmise, I lean more Luciferian vs. Theistic Satanist. I therefore don’t understand the Jesus-Hate by the latter. He’s basically the exit protocol from this reality, whereas Lucifer (Satan) is the resistance to deletion in this reality. Both oppose the Demiurge from different fronts in my opinion, and are not necessarily enemies to that end. Anyways, that’s just my unique perspective. I’ve been coming back and forth here for the past year or so – first time posting. I’m interested to see others’ thoughts, given this is the most recent theological posting. Thanks in advance for your consideration!